dira | feelings meme!

Can I ask you about Colby Granger, or are you too out of Numb3rs fandom now?

Aral Vorkosigan.

Ivan Vorpatril.

Awwww, Colby. I'll take a crack at him, based on what I have actually seen of Numb3rs, which is only the first two and a half seasons or so.

1. How I FEEEEEL about Colby these days is sort of absentminded fondness--I continue to wish I could obtain a copy of Just the Colby and David Parts from the latter seasons of Numb3rs. *g*
2. David Sinclair! And whatsisface, Dwayne, in a tragic ex-boyfriend sort of way.
3. ...also David Sinclair? I mean. Even if they're not boyfriends they should be partners forever and ever.
4. Hmmm, wow, I have no idea what the popular or unpopular opinions about Colby even are. Also I am missing half of his canon. The last possibly-unpopular opinion I recall having about Colby was the conviction that, regardless of Dwayne calling him PFC Granger, he had never been an enlisted man, because that made no sense.
5. Uhh, I wish he had gone on a for-real date with David? :D

Hm... Ianto Jones?

Cordelia Vorkosigan?

*eyes previous comments*

Miles Vorkosigan.

(might as well get the whole family in there.)

Copied over from LJ, where rubynye asked for Aral also, but in all caps. :)

1. How I FEEEEEL about Aral, oh man. Um. I fell madly in love with him when I was twelve years old and never recovered. Basically. He is also The Best Dad. And a great big woobie and I love him and have for my entire adult life.

2. Within his own canon I ship Aral with Cordelia (duh) and Jole (my shiny tin hat, let me show you it, oh wait I already have). Aral is also one of those characters where, provided it doesn't break my canon-internal OTPs (and, let me say, I can work around a lot!) I ship Aral with anyone who will make him happy and leave him happier/better off/saner than he was before, because he deserves all the happiness! Sex with Jack Harkness! Innocent flirtation with Amy Pond! Whirlwind affair with Neville Longbottom! Neville AND Draco! WHATEVER HE WANTS OTHER THAN GES.

So basically I am easy.

3. Non-romantic OTP, by which I assume we mean who should be his BFF? Simon! Simon Simon Simon Simon and sometimes Kou. But mostly Simon. This is not to say that I can't fit Simon into my above standards for people to ship Aral with romantically, but really only on a temporary basis--I can more easily see them being ... fuck-buddies really does not seem like a sufficiently Barrayaran term for it--but having a lot of sex on the basis of friendship (or, early on, on the basis of propinquity, desperation, and a mutual lack of actual hostility) without ever conceptualizing it as a romantic relationship per se.

4. Uh. Huh. Are there unpopular opinions about Aral? I guess if I have an unpopular opinion about Aral it's that I didn't dislike the end of CryoBurn. It made me sad, but it didn't piss me off that it was handled that way (also, it put a special shine on my shiny tin hat, and so I forgive it a lot).

5. THAT SAID, I would really like a pre-CryoBurn book set on Sergyar and starring Aral Vorkosigan, preferably from his own point of view--but a novel about his and Cordelia's working partnership, thirty-some years on, would please me immensely from her POV or anyone's. (*koffAdmiralJolekoff*) Even if it required me to fold my shiny tin hat into new and more creative configurations.

I would be ALL FOR a Sergyar book. Aral and Cordelia being awesome together! And maybe while Miles was out doing something hairbrained, and so Simon could hang around and Aral and Simon could shake their heads while not having their own adventures and say, "Kids these days."

At one time, Lois (was reported to have) said that she wanted to write another book about Aral and Cordelia--but it would end in Aral's death. So I had been happy not to have the book before CryoBurn, but now I am spared any ambivalence in wanting it. And it's still perfectly possible, I suppose, without stepping on her own toes....

*eyes previous comments as well*

Gregor Vorbarra! We mustn't forget the foster brother.

1. Oh IVAN. I am sort of fond of Ivan with a strong current of YOU SHUT UP, IVAN IS BRILLIANT, IVAN CAN DO ANYTHING HE WANTS TO, HE JUST WANTS TO BE LEFT ALONE. Not directed at you personally, of course.

2. I ship Ivan mainly with Someone Who Will Make Ivan Happy. By and Dono are delightful short-term options, and I have managed to come up with a scenario where I gleefully ship Ivan/Ekaterin in the emphatic absence of Miles, but mainly I fervently ship Ivan with Some Nice Lady We Haven't Met Yet.

3. Non-romantically, uh, hm. Non-romantically I also ship Ivan with Someone Who Will Make Him Happy (in the sense of being a good friend and having some respect for him and generally not being Miles, much though they love each other). So, possibly By, possibly someone we haven't met yet and might never.

4. Unpopular opinion about Ivan... I have no idea what constitutes an unpopular opinion about Ivan. And I fear that even if I did, I don't have any.

5. I would like to see him be AWESOME in a situation that has nothing to do with Miles, which I think is upcoming, and I would like to see him settle down and be happy with that.

I am ENTIRELY IN AGREEMENT with your Ivan feelings.

(Well, mostly. I agree rationally that By is a short-term option, but that is not stopping me from writing soppy plotless happily-ever-after Ivan/By idfic in my head.)

Jack Harkness.

Oh, you did that over on LJ. Ne'mind.

In the spirit of getting the whole Vorkosigan crew in there, I ask for Mark. Who I love with a deep and special love, even if it is a bit twisted.

I'm totally with you on #4 - I'm going with it being an in-joke between friends, not reality.

I think at one point I evolved the theory that Colby's full legal name was Percival Francis Colby Granger, and Dwayne found PFC a hilarious nickname because of the inappropriate-rank-ness of it and also as a way to constantly remind Colby that he knew the embarrassing secret of his full name. *g*

Hey, far be it from me to argue with anybody's soppy plotless curtainfic fantasies. :)

* How I FEEEEEL about this character
Oh Ianto. Fond, definitely very fond. And vaguely thankful that he's dead now and (probably) can't be screwed up any more by canon.

* All the people I ship romantically with this character
Jaaaaaaaaack.

* My non-romantic OTP for this character
Hm. Gwen, I guess. I wish we'd gotten more of Ianto and Gwen being mates and trying to cope with being all there was of Torchwood apart from their insane boss that wasn't, you know, Children of Earth. That wasn't any fun at all.

* My unpopular opinion about this character
I ship him with Jack, but I don't think he was the Great Love of Jack's Life. I think Jack was the love of his life, such as his life was toward the end, but not the other way around. My head-canon Ianto understood that and mostly didn't mind.

* One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.
I wish he'd gotten a properly heroic death, a death that accomplished something. He was braver than he got credit for most of the time, and I wish that that hadn't been demonstrated in such a pointless way in his death.

* How I FEEEEEL about this character
Oh, man, this is even harder to parse than how I feel about Aral; Cordelia was--role model doesn't quite express it. Cordelia was my model of everything wise and sensible and kind, from when I was twelve years old. Eventually I came to notice a few little fallibilities, but. Cordelia.

* All the people I ship romantically with this character
Aral!

* My non-romantic OTP for this character -
Drou? Alys? I don't know, her partnership with Aral is so all-encompassing that she never quite seemed to have room for a BFF. She loves lots of people, but outside of Aral none of them is in the OTP place for her, I think.

* My unpopular opinion about this character
I think that once in a while Cordelia is completely wrong about something. Probably. I mean, as a matter of statistical probability. Oh, and I think if she decides to go back to Beta Colony after Aral's death, she'll find it an even worse fit for her than it was when she left to marry him.

* One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.
I want another Cordelia book! Her Vicereine-ship, or really anything set on Barrayar after she had really found her feet and come into her own.

* How I FEEEEEL about this character
Miles! I love him madly, from a nice safe distance.

* All the people I ship romantically with this character
Ekaterin! And ... really that's it! I loved his relationships with Quinn and Taura but now that he's found Ekaterin I am happy to OTP them until the end of time.

* My non-romantic OTP for this character -
Bothari is the person who sprang to mind, even though their relationship was more parent-child than anything. They were so closely bound to each other in such a unique way.

* My unpopular opinion about this character
Oh, God, are there unpopular opinions about Miles? I don't think I have any.

* One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.
A long and increasingly serene and happy life, surrounded by his family, as viewed in the background of, say, Hellion's crazy galactic adventures?

* How I FEEEEEL about this character
I love Gregor to TINY PIECES and I am SO GLAD that he gets to be happy now.

* All the people I ship romantically with this character
Laisa!

* My non-romantic OTP for this character -
His BFF Count Vorvolk? Also I have just decided in the last thirty seconds that I hope and believe that he has a not-commented-upon-in-polite-society-but-everyone-knows caste-violatingly-close friendship with one or more of his Armsmen.

* My unpopular opinion about this character
I can't think of one.

* One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.
A long and mostly uneventful reign toward the end of which he selects one of his daughters as the best choice to succeed him as Emperor.

* How I FEEEEEL about this character
I LIKE THE FAT LITTLE CREEP! Love him, in fact--he's probably my next-most-beloved character in the books after Aral.

* All the people I ship romantically with this character
Kareen!

* My non-romantic OTP for this character -
...the black gang? um. I don't think Mark is really ready to have a non-romantic OTP with anybody. He's just getting good at Kareen.

* My unpopular opinion about this character
He's awesome and I adore him?

* One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.
MARK BOOK PLZ.

I agree with you in so many ways, especially your last two points. CoE left me furious and flailing in no small part because of the manner of Ianto's death. What the everloving FUCK, Rusty?

Re: unpopular opinions, some people think Miles is a manipulative little shithead, and they don't mean it in that affectionate way that, say, Ivan would say it. Personally: Miles is one of many, many characters whom I a) adore and b) would not be able to deal with at all. If nothing else, he'd start tossing off orders and I'd be all DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO because I get like that. But some people just do not like to read about him, period.

There's this one fic where Cordelia says "my son can be a twit sometimes" or something to that effect (in reference to how Bel lost their* job in the fleet), and I fucking loved it. It's good fic, too, TW/Vorkosiverse crossover, excellently done, good plot, hot sex. And I very much like the idea that Cordelia is exquisitely aware of Miles' failings as a human being, not that that disturbs her adoration of him one iota.

*I CANNOT bring myself to refer to a person as "it". This includes a non-binary person who wanted to be referred to that way, in an effort to reclaim the pronoun - I kept stumbling and saying "they" which is my default non-specified/non-binary/gender neutral pronoun. Because, in my head, you do not ever refer to human beings as "it". Ever. Because that's what you use when you're intentionally being insulting to a trans person. And I don't respect Bujold's Betan herms, as a scifi exploration into the nature of gender and human sexuality, so whatever, I'll use the pronoun that works for me.

I think Mark would have a non-romantic OTP with a business partner of some sort. Or possibly a business rival - I can see him really doing well in a cordial Best Enemies scenario. Someone who isn't scared of him and takes Mark very much in stride, and who Mark can just geek out at instead of having to navigate social norms and all that shit. Someone who cares about the same thing Mark cares about. And who has nothing to do with Jackson's Whole or Barrayar. Most likely a Betan.

Uh, possibly I'm projecting, since I could really do with a few more people who take *me* in stride :/

In my headcanon, Ivan just isn't the marrying type. He'd do best in a fluid polyamorous situation where he wasn't anyone's partner, per se, and never co-habitates with anyone. On Barrayar, he's had to settle for serial monogamy (most likely with some under-the-table or tacitly approved non-monogamy), and he'd do ok in a long-term monogamous relationship with the right person. But he's always been and always will be committed to Miles and his family in a significant, not entirely healthy, but very Vorish way. And I don't think that's sad, I just wish his family gave him more respect. I dunno, they're all a bit dysfunctional, for all that they've got Cordelia. Gregor utterly trapped and he ends up learning to breathe under a mile of water, Miles constantly trying to take up more space and have everyone's attention, Ivan trying to hide in Miles' shadow. What a bunch of woobies ;) And I'm not even gonna make an attempt at Alys' psyche, except that it's just as well she's had a Very Important Job taking up so much of her energy.

Yeah, that was high-octane Rusty-being-Rusty. I mean, I guess it made sense thematically, in CoE, because there was so much pointlessness and futility and helplessness there, but, um. That does not make for a fun and satisfying story.

I agree mostly with this, although I'm not sure that Jack was Ianto's Great love. I think that might have been Lisa. I do think that they were two very damaged people who did love each other and could have been great togather for Ianto's lifetime if not Jack's.

Ianto was brave and smart and deserved a much better, much more meaningful life. He didn't get run over by a car or shot by a soldier (meaningless deaths), but died becasue he and Jack were stupid. And Jack and Ianto were alot of things but stupid wasn't one of them.

I disagree, only because I'd like to read your soppy plotless happily-ever-after Ivan/By idfic, and therefore want it out of your head...

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