It took me like twenty minutes to come up with this one.

[dira]

*affixes shiny tin hat at a jaunty angle*

The Doctor: Your molecular memory can survive this, you know. It may not be The End.

SO OBVIOUSLY what happens right after we cut away from the Doctor MELTING FLESH!AMY AFTER HE'S JUST SPENT ALL THIS TIME ARGUING THAT FLESH ARE REAL PEOPLE ETC. ETC. AND THE TARDIS STABILIZES FLESH SO THEY ARE FOREVER REAL PEOPLE ETC. ETC.

is that Amy promptly reconstitutes, now more angry than frightened, and the Doctor explains that he just had to disrupt the signal to separate her from pregnant!Amy and, tada, Rory's lifelong dream has come true: TWO AMYS NO WAITING.


...There is still no good answer for the torture-porn ending of Amy screaming and all all alone and scared and in pain and possibly giving birth right into the eyestalk of a Dalek, I mean WTF, but I am forced to conclude that they really were setting up that Amy Is Scully visual metaphor on purpose in Impossible Astronaut, because, hey there.

Comments

[beck_liz]

I like that idea so much better. I am SO CONFLICTED about this episode. On the one hand, I found it so much more interesting and engaging than last week's episode, and two Doctors, so yay! On the other hand, the ending.

(Just because they both have awesome red hair does not mean you have to abduct and/or make Amy pregnant!!!!)

[sockich]

Hmm, I thought that, unlike the other gangers, flesh!Amy wasn't a real, separate person, just original!Amy's mind in a ganger's body?

...There is still no good answer for the torture-porn ending of Amy screaming and all all alone and scared and in pain and possibly giving birth right into the eyestalk of a Dalek, I mean WTF,

No argument there.

[doctor_denmark]

i didn't understand why, if the tardis made the gangers human, they didn't make ganger!amy human

[slybrarian]

I don't think Flesh!Amy counted because she was still connected with Real!Amy, who was the one actually in the driver's seat. It's basically just a fancy teleoperated robot. The other gangers only became separate from their originals when the freaky space tsunami think zapped the system. Basically there was no one home inside Flesh!Amy once the Doctor cut the signal, which is why she went splat. I think.

[inkjunket]

Right! The whole episode is about how flesh isn't just a car or a tool, that it has a life of its own -- if they hadn't wanted us to think that, then they shouldn't have had the scene of Jennifer and Rory discovering the pile of abandoned gangers.

is that Amy promptly reconstitutes, now more angry than frightened, and the Doctor explains that he just had to disrupt the signal to separate her from pregnant!Amy and, tada, Rory's lifelong dream has come true: TWO AMYS NO WAITING.

Yes, please! I want this. I believe it's probably also a lifelong dream of Amy's.

[dira]

But I think the whole idea there was that gangers are inherently real, separate people, just usually they get killed or discarded by their human originals, and their only moment of self-awareness as gangers is the why of their deaths. Maybe?

[dira]

Well, I think it doesn't make them human, it "stabilizes" them, so their faces don't get all soft-edged and weird-looking--so a ganger who's traveled in the TARDIS should be able to ~pass~ as human indefinitely.

[dira]

Well, Cleves and Doctor!Ganger both went splat, too, and clearly they were them. I think the whole argument was that the flesh were never just robots, they always had real selves--but they never had a self-awareness of their existence separate from the original until their deaths (or, more horribly, until discarded to rot).

[dira]

Man, now I am wondering if that doesn't wind up being the solution to the problem of what happens with Amy and Rory's baby--human Amy, and Rory, go off to play house and raise the baby, and ganger!Amy can keep running around the universe with the Doctor indefinitely.

[dira]

Yeah, the ending was ... what? But I am clinging to my hope that it's all going somewhere.

[ellen_fremedon]

I approve of this!

[dira]

AND THEN, one of the Amys and Rory could stay home and take care of the baby WHO WILL BE FINE, and the other Amy could travel the universe with the Doctor! Perhaps the Amys take turns!

[ladyvyola]

I highly disapprove of this scenario.

Because the pretty one Rory needs to be running around the universe, too.

[dira]

The three of them could rotate? Sometimes the Amys stay with the baby while Rory runs around, and each Amy gets her turns as well.