Said it once (or more) before but it bears repeating now.

[dira]

Okay I am morally certain that it cannot actually have been over eight years since the last time I posted about Spy Game, the touching love story of CIA agents Brad Pitt and Robert Redford as directed by Tony Scott, but I cannot find a more recent post by going through my tags.

So: GUYS. SPY GAME IS A TOUCHING LOVE STORY BETWEEN BRAD PITT AND ROBERT REDFORD, PLEASE DISCUSS.

I would discuss but all I can do is make heart-hands at my TV. BOY SCOUTTTTTTTTT YOUR BOYFRIEND LOVVVVVVVES YOU HE JUST WANTS YOU TO BE SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFE.

Iulia: does not roll her eyes at all these days. ♥

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[dira]

Possibly there is also an element of IF I DON'T BRING HER OUT FOR YOU YOU'LL JUST TRY SOMETHING EVEN STUPIDER NEXT TIME, WON'T YOU. FINE.

And, yeah, I mean, I feel a tiny bit Terrible Slash Fangirl wanting to just remove Elizabeth from the picture but then again: SERIOUSLY TOM BISHOP HAS DANGEROUS BAGGAGE. RUN AWAAAAAAAY.

UNLESS YOU ARE NATHAN MUIR IN WHICH CASE YOU ARE THE BAGGAGE SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL BOTH START GETTING ORGASMS OUT OF IT.

[missmollyetc]

Yep, pretty much! ::laughsandlaughs:: NATHAN'S LOVE IS NOT WITHOUT EXASPERATION, DIRA! WHY WON'T PAWNS JUST STAY PUT?!


And, yeah, I mean, I feel a tiny bit Terrible Slash Fangirl

I mean, kinda? BUT on the other hand, at the end of the movie I was left with the Really Firm View that Elizabeth's happy ending was NOT with TOM BISHOP OMG EVEN WITHOUT THE SLASH ANGLE, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY MOVE ALONG THERE! The movie's mostly from Nathan's POV, true, but on the very face of it, I never thought Tom and Elizabeth were particularly healthy together.

YES. IF YOU MUST BE UNHEALTHILY CO-DEPENDENT, AT LEAST GET A BLOWJOB OUT OF IT, BOYS. WE'RE JUST SAYIN'

[dira]

Yeah. And also they had a supremely dishonest sexual/romantic relationship for, like, a month? tops? and then more or less honest for one night, and then didn't see each other for five years which she spent in prison. Sooooo. Not a great foundation for a long-term relationship. She's glad to see him again BECAUSE HE GOT HER OUT OF PRISON AND SHE THOUGHT HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN KILLED FOR IT! He's happy to have gotten her out of prison because seriously Nathan went too far there. Justice is served! And then they hug and part.

(I mean, I can see Nathan feeling he had supplied Tom with a perfectly reasonable happy ending, giving Elizabeth to him. And Tom then going and finding him and being like "...No.")

[missmollyetc]

Pretty much! Even allowing for the Hollywood view of the relationship timeline, it's not much to go on, and I feel like Spy Game is too pragmatic a movie to buy into the idea that Tom and Elizabeth had an Instant Love Connection. I think it wasn't the sort of relationship that could endure, because it was based on deceit, and self-deceit, and the idea that somehow they'd wind up with a mythical picket fence ending. They recognized something in each other, to be sure, but fellow feeling doesn't always end in marriage, especially when I don't see them as actually agreeing with what their counterpart has dedicated his/her life to.

tl:dr I like your post-script the best. ::grins::

(LOLOL. ABSOLUTELY. That part of Tom that gets to Nathan the most is how he always goes past what Nathan expects of him. If Tom wasn't squirrelly, Nathan wouldn't be half as interested.)