Like we do

[dira]

So for the past few weeks, I've been obtaining episodes of a certain British TV show for a work-friend of mine, who is not fannish and not plugged into fannish means of obtaining stuff, but who managed to suss out that I am. No big deal, right, because I have a pretty easy means of getting my hands on it and that's what we do--if I can get my hands on something and somebody else can't, I'll try to help her out. That's how it works. Except that if you're not in fandom apparently sometimes you feel like you have to thank a person who helps you out with chocolate. Not that I'm not okay with chocolate, but I belatedly realized that I should have held out for making her watch Teen Wolf with me as my price.

Also, it led me to work out the following:

A friend will obtain media for you.
A good friend will watch it with you.
Your best friend will write you kinky rarepair porn about it when it's not even Yuletide yet.


I think that seems about right. Although it may make me not a good fan-friend to Iulia, considering the number of things I have politely declined to watch with her, let alone write kinky rarepair porn about. Sorry, bb.

Comments

[iulia]

*loves you anyway* Sometimes it is good to be reminded that we are, in fact, separate people. *g*

[riverlight]

I was going to say, "I bet she loves you anyway," but she beat me to it. :)

[dira]

She's pretty quick like that. :)

[dira]

True, true, I guess it would be weird--or, weirder--if we didn't diverge at all. *g*

[ellen_fremedon]

The (counts, flinches) 27 action figures on my desk make it pretty clear that I am the resource for all of my workmates' Doctor Who needs. I regularly have people coming to my door or stopping me in the hall to find out when the show is coming off hiatus, ask where to start with old school Who, or process their feelings about the Ponds.

[dira]

I do not advertise myself quite that well, but I had enough open-workspace conversations about Stuff That Has Not Yet Aired in the US that apparently she picked up on the theme. :)

[mlyn]

Lawl. So true.

So what's your kinky rarepair need for Teen Wolf?

[dira]

Hmmmmm. Teenage and/or contemporary Papa Stilinski/Peter Hale? (SURPRISE: HE ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT WEREWOLVES YOU GUYS, HE GREW UP IN BEACON HILLS.) Orrrrr the one one where Isaac gets lovingly gangbanged by the pack. (I mean, why do we think Stiles needs to be the center of attention all the time?) Or just Derek/Isaac, why is there not mountains of Derek/Isaac porn? Or really well-done fic where Lydia dominates werewolf!Jackson right through the floor because seriously come on.

Or, you know. Whatever. I love me some not-at-all-rare-or-even-kinky-pair. As witnessed by the fact that I think I am seriously about to finish this PWP with Stiles and Derek having sex under the covers in the dark.

[mlyn]

I am speechless at the visions dancing through my head. SPEECHLESS.

[dira]

That means I win! :D

(Derek grinned into the mattress and kept up the slow, sinuous motion. Stiles's motions were more jerky, less controlled, but neither of them was moving more than an inch, so it hardly mattered. They were almost having sex for sure now--kid stuff, dry humping, but with a slow-motion certainty that Derek had definitely never had when he was a kid. Stiles had kind of leaped over all the intervening steps when they'd first gotten together, zero to fucking in about a day, so this was a strange, backward kind of first for both of them, innocent as it was.)

[mlyn]

Nrrrrrgh. And your icon. *pets those shoulderblades*

I'm really intrigued by your Derek/Isaac ideas, though. And by "intrigued" I mean "banging my head against the desk asking why I hadn't thought of that possibility before".

[dira]

I mean, you could do SO MUCH with Derek/Isaac, all the way from super serious dirtybadwrong to tender pack-building healing sex. AND IT WOULD ALL BE SO HOT. AND SO FANTASTICALLY ATHLETIC.

[mlyn]

AND SO FANTASTICALLY ATHLETIC.

I knew there was a special particular reason I loved you, Dira.

[dira]

Come on, werewolf-on-werewolf sex with no human frailties to worry about? I MEAN DAMN. (Likewise Boyd/Erica, I MEAN. DAMN.)

[mlyn]

Oh god yeah. Still, the dichotomy of werewolf strength & human weakness appeals to me, like Stiles (or whoever) getting fucked out of his mind because Derek (or whoever) can't get exhausted. The point where the human just becomes undone—that's the best. For me.

So Papa Stilinski/Peter as teenagers is so badandwrong that I need it immediately. But Papa Stilinski needs a name, dammit.

But I'd still read the shit out of wolf-on-wolf fic.

[dira]

Fanon seems to be just going with John, which may or may not have started as a Johnny Cage nod, but it's sort of nicely neutral and transparent, y'know?

Also, hey, Papa Stillinski/Peter as teenagers is SO MUCH LESS badandwrong than Chris Argent/Peter as teenagers, which people are writing all over the place. (To, uh, say nothing of the AU I want to write where Peter was married to Lydia's aunt and that's where he gets his fixation on authoritative redheads, and why he knew Lydia would be immune. Because fandom needs my novel length OFC-POV genfic, right.)

[mlyn]

I like "John", it's better than "Sheriff" or "Dad".

Huh, shows how much I'm actively looking for fic outside of Derek/Stiles. I had no idea about the Chris/Peter fic. (But I can totally see that. Yup.)

Because fandom needs my novel length OFC-POV genfic, right.

It wouldn't be the first time fandom has enjoyed the shit out of something like that.

[dira]

I friended the Teen Wolf newsletter comm (who knew they still made such things!) on LJ, so I get to see a pretty good rundown of everything posted to AO3 and LJ every day, which gives me a decent sense of what people are writing other than Stiles/Derek. I don't click on much of it, but I see it go by. *g*

(It wouldn't all be Ylva's POV, anyway. It would also be Peter and probably Melissa. And it might actually end up as Peter/Ylva/Melissa, idk.)

(Yeah, Ylva. Extra hilarious because she's immune to the bite and thus still human. She and Peter delight in both calling the other Wolf as an endearment. *g*)

[mlyn]

I would ask about that newsletter comm, but fandom eats about enough of my brain on a daily basis anyway. I'm thrilled with the rec lists of a few people on AO3, yours included. :)

Ylva. LOVE IT. *prods you*

[dira]

The downside of that AU is that it's a swap. The Hale house never burned down... but the Stilinski house did, killing everyone except Stiles, who was badly burned and not expected to survive.

...Until Ylva, who can't have kids with Peter because wolf-hybrids are too dangerous for a human mother to carry, finds out about an orphaned child who the bite could save...

[mlyn]

*makes grabby hands*

See, you've got it all plotted and everything. It'll be nothing to finish this. Really!

[dira]

Sure, sure, this one is TOTALLY EASY except for the "Six years after the fire, Derek comes home from college and Laura is murdered. Derek is suspected of the crime and only Stiles believes he might be innocent," saga, in which sixteen-year-old Stiles and mad-bad-dangerous-to-know 22-year-old Derek, you know, bond....

[mlyn]

I see nothing wrong here.

(Here I thought you'd gone to bed. Dang girl!)

[dira]

Okay, well. The main thing is that I can't write it until after the hookerfic and the kidfic, and I can't write THOSE until after I finish the Beauty and the Beast AU and the GK wolfverse. So... Summer 2013, maybe? :)

[mlyn]

I'll be here!

(*Mutters "hookerfic?" and leaves quickly*)

[dira]

Sixteen-year-old runaway hooker!Stiles, oh yeah. I am looking forward to that one. :D

[mlyn]

How I feel about hooker fic depends on a lot of factors. I'll still read yours, though.

[dira]

Oh, now I'm curious! What do you like/dislike in hookerfic? I think this is the first time I'm writing hookerfic where the pairing are actually hooker and john, so it's a whole new world. *g*

[mlyn]

My feels probably aren't all that unusual: I want to live in an idealized world where prostitution is a chosen profession, not a desperate means to make ends meet (no pun intended). I don't like a power imbalance favoring the john that results in intimidation or fear, abuse of the hooker (unless it's past abuse and you're writing hurt/comfort), exchange of favors for basic necessities like food. I'd rather the hooker hooks because he/she likes sex and enjoys doing something they're good at, even performing a public service. Let me elaborate that I firmly believe in the topping from the bottom and a sub being the one in control, so I'm not some prude or shrinking violet. But submitting sexually out of fear, desperation or self-preservation smacks of rape to me. :/ I also don't have an issue with age, just consent: emotional maturity matters more than the number of months someone has to them. Annie in "Copper" is a fascinating character once you realize how smart and in control she is, at times. Also I read a really great Avengers Clint Barton/Phil Coulson fic that did a nice hooker treatment, if you want a comparison.

[dira]

Aha! Yeah, that does seem pretty reasonable when you put it like that. :)

I think this story will be readable-but-not-ideal for you? Stiles, as a sixteen-year-old runaway, chooses prostitution from his limited range of options for making a living, but he doesn't feel desperate or frightened about making that choice, it's just ... what he decides to do, partly because, yeah, having sex for money seems like one of the more fun options. And he's definitely never afraid of Derek. He has at least one questionable/scary encounter with someone else in the course of his work in the story, but he builds a trusted/trusting professional relationship with Derek as a regular.

...That's the plan, anyway. I guess I should get back to the writing-other-things-first so I can someday get to actually writing the hookerfic. :)

(Also, yes! I would love to read good Clint/Phil hookerfic!)

[mlyn]

I think there's an exception to any rule about fanfic. I've learned a lot about myself for trying things I didn't think I would like. But, primarily, the best writers can sell anything. Your premise sounds like something I'd enjoy. But, yes, finish what you have going now.

Here's the Phil/Clint hooker fic: http://archiveofourown.org/works/336413
gqgqqt is awesome at everything. She has one or two follow ups to this.

[missmollyetc]

Hey, I once had my mom come up to me and ask if I had an Doctor Who for one of the ladies she worked with, so...at least you're pimping yourself out?

[dira]

\o?

[missmollyetc]

YOU'RE THE CAPTAIN OF YOUR OWN EP-DISPENSING SHIP!